Low Cost Core Setup?

[dave524]

Considering adding some cores to the spread and was thinking of using low cost mooching reels like a Daiwa with mono backing. They seem to have the line capacity up to the task with a bit of weight savings over similar capacity conventional reels. Yes I realize they are 1:1 retrieve but considering a conventional  spool would be down to a pretty small diameter with the core out  and the moocher would be working off a larger diameter arbor maybe the difference would not be as great as the gear ratio would suggest?? Anyone try a setup like this or see anything wrong with my thinking. 2 spools of core, a bulk spool of 30 lb. mono and 4 lowcost moochers would give you a nice selection of lengths . Comments

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[Trophy J]

2 spools of core? How many colors are you thinking?
How much are your low cost moochers?
Anything is possible when it comes to fishing ...
I run the Okuma Convectors for Leadcore. I use the CV 30's for less than 6 cores and the CV45's for more than 6 up to 10 core.
I would compare the price of your moochers with say the convector.
Good luck.

[dave524]

The Daiwas are in the 50 dollar range in Canada and have a capacity of over 500 yds of 20 lb. mono so I was thinking of mono backing for more savings over the necessity of thinner  pricey braid and I'm not a fan of braid in releases anyway. As far as lengths ,  I was considering 4 reels, 1 full core cut to yield a 2 and an 8 and the other cut to yield a 4 and a 6, or maybe 3 reels with one a full core and the other cut for a 3 and a 7.

edit: I intend to run them off fixed dual boards with releases not in lines

[storminnorman]

You must have arms like popeye. That set-up will kill you full cores are tough to handle on a good level wind. Let us know how you make out.

[myot]

You must have arms like popeye. That set-up will kill you full cores are tough to handle on a good level wind. Let us know how you make out.

exactly what Norm said you have fun with that and if you are feeling realy agressive put a 600' section of copper on one and have fun

[dave524]

Which is the killer? the number of revolutions to retreive or the difficulty in cranking against a load? I've found high speed conventional reels some of the worst performers in retrieving against a load, what you gain in speed you lose in mechanical advantage.

[tyeetamer]

The # of revs per turn would be the big killer. A regular level wind geared at 4.0 - 4.2-1 such as tekotas, okuma convectors, or daiwa sealines have plenty of cranking power to bring in a full core or long stretch's of copper. I have a high speed okuma clarion which is 6.4-1 with 400' copper on it and I agree you do lose some power on the retrieve but for leadcore 4.2-1 is lot's of cranking power and it dosn't take you forever to reel it in. Your forearms will thank you  

[CATNIP II]

For up to 10 colors of core, I use Pen 309 for of core. Not much room for backing with 10 colors -  probably a good idea to use braid. For 8 colors or less there is room for sufficient 20 pound mono backing.  Slower retrieve than the Penn 330's and other comparable reels but the price is reasonable.

[dave524]

Thanks, I was pretty sure I was going to see " arms like Popeye"   somewhere in the responses. These were mainly going to be used walleye fishing on Erie off fixed boards . Maybe a couple of 30 size reels with 4/5 colours and some snap weights if required would work better, really wanted to stay away from bigger reels on walleyes, they are pretty tame  :-/

[storminnorman]

No malice intended with the Popeye thing Dave . How about short sections of copper and braid works well on offshore steelhead and a lot of stateside walleye trollers are running short coppers 75 100 125 sections. Only a thought good luck with whatever you go with.

[dave524]

No offense taken Norm, my thinking was the conventional would be down to a very small diameter spool with the cores out while the moocher would still have a bit of diameter to it, kind of negating any advantage to the geared system. Guess this isn't the case.

[digby]

What size if rod and type do you guys use? I have 7' Okuma's with large eyelids. I need to get something larger as my arms are turning into Popeye's! Rods that will allow the knots to pass through to the reel!

Cheers