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Leader length with dips
« on: June 02, 2021, 09:12:32 am »
Hey guys wondering how long should I run leaders to spoons when using dipseys....also same length regardless of wire or braid? Appreciate the help

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2021, 09:52:46 am »
Length of the rod for solo fishing and easy netting, i know some people like long lead of 10-20ft and hand line the last few feet but that cant be done solo.  Also try lighter line, spoon will get better action.

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2021, 01:43:15 pm »
Length of the rod for solo fishing and easy netting, i know some people like long lead of 10-20ft and hand line the last few feet but that cant be done solo.  Also try lighter line, spoon will get better action.

Who says it canít be done solo?!   Itís done all the time solo 20-30 foot leads by many people.   Just takes a bit of practice. Loosen the drag.  Grab the line.   Set rod straight out back of boat and handline in.   I find it easier to even net the fish then trying to reach back with a rod and scooping.

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2021, 04:37:13 pm »
Sorry it can be done.  just gets busy back there and not for a newbie

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2021, 05:13:46 pm »
Slide divers

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2021, 08:23:34 pm »
We have found that in our boat we get more bites with a longer leader 20 feet, sometimes tough to manage especially with a hot fish that comes to the boat fast.

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2021, 11:22:47 am »
Length of the rod for solo fishing and easy netting, i know some people like long lead of 10-20ft and hand line the last few feet but that cant be done solo.  Also try lighter line, spoon will get better action.

Who says it canít be done solo?!   Itís done all the time solo 20-30 foot leads by many people.   Just takes a bit of practice. Loosen the drag.  Grab the line.   Set rod straight out back of boat and handline in.   I find it easier to even net the fish then trying to reach back with a rod and scooping.

Absolutely agree. I hand line solo all the time. My leader from the diver back is 50lb. Big Game mono, easier on the hands, less prone to tangles, nicks and abrasions. Add a lighter fluro. leader for spoons. Don't hand line the line into the boat! let it trail behind the boat in the water. If the fish bolts away, less chance of a tangle and break off.  Like everything else in life, there is a learning curve...

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2021, 04:16:58 pm »
Use clips on your Dipsey so you can remove it.  Then make your lead as long as you want

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2021, 08:33:41 pm »
Use clips on your Dipsey so you can remove it.  Then make your lead as long as you want

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If you only fish with mono or braid that might be the case.   Not wire

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2021, 08:35:35 pm »
Use clips on your Dipsey so you can remove it.  Then make your lead as long as you want

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If you only fish with mono or braid that might be the case.   Not wire
Incorrect.  I use it with wire dipseys all the time.  You still use a leader with wire?
The Dipsey is attached to the leader.


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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 09:20:31 am »
Hey guys wondering how long should I run leaders to spoons when using dipseys....also same length regardless of wire or braid? Appreciate the help

I've read that the length of the rod is a rule of thumb although don't take my word for it, this is my first season.  I'm curious as well, if I wanted to run a spin doctor/spoon or fly combo behind a diver, would that rule of thumb still apply.

I'm not confident enough to fight a fish hand over hand with a 20 foot lead!

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2021, 10:12:47 pm »
This makes sense. I was out with a buddy and noticed he had a length of mono
Between the wire and the dipsy.
Makes things easier when you break your rods down. You donít get any
Kinks because itís only mono running through the guides when you store it.

Question is how do you join the mono or flouro section to the wire?
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ote author=Bob Webster link=topic=41245.msg223811#msg223811 date=1622936135]
Use clips on your Dipsey so you can remove it.  Then make your lead as long as you want

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If you only fish with mono or braid that might be the case.   Not wire
Incorrect.  I use it with wire dipseys all the time.  You still use a leader with wire?
The Dipsey is attached to the leader.


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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2021, 09:34:09 am »
This makes sense. I was out with a buddy and noticed he had a length of mono
Between the wire and the dipsy.
Makes things easier when you break your rods down. You donít get any
Kinks because itís only mono running through the guides when you store it.

Question is how do you join the mono or flouro section to the wire?
Thanks


ote author=Bob Webster link=topic=41245.msg223811#msg223811 date=1622936135]
Use clips on your Dipsey so you can remove it.  Then make your lead as long as you want

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If you only fish with mono or braid that might be the case.   Not wire
Incorrect.  I use it with wire dipseys all the time.  You still use a leader with wire?
The Dipsey is attached to the leader.


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[/quote]Use an Albright knot.
Here is my set up.  I have about 20' of mono as a leader. 
OR 16 clip ( knock off) .  You only need one.  Loop the line around the clip and ensure its behind the pin!  When you get a fish simply remove the clip and reel in the fish.  WAY easier than a slider or hand-lining a 20 lber.
Pictures because I find that easier...

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2021, 04:18:02 pm »
Great post Bob, thanks for the pictures. How heavy is your leader line? 40#?

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Re: Leader length with dips
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2021, 05:52:43 pm »
Wow Iím glad I asked
Thanks for the pics!!!
Looks like a great set up
Charlie


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